Subject: Re: [Butler Talk] Action of hot key not repeated

From: Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 07:34:13 -0800 (PST)

I see... Thank you for your answer!

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From: Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 07:18:13 -0800

On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Dear Rob, could you reproduce the problem? Thanks.

I've heard from Peter, and here's the answer. Or rather, possible answers:

1) At some point in Butler's history, perhaps after 4.1.12, we had to change the way we triggered keystrokes, because Apple deprecated the old way and it was going to stop working.

2) The current versions of Butler are built with a different version of the SDK; the old SDK may have handled repeating keystrokes differently.

In either case, we can't easily add back repeating keystrokes, as we'll have to write that code ourselves now. We'll make sure the next major release can handle repeating keys, but for now, your best bet may be to look at a full-blown macro tool, suck as Keyboard Maestro.

regards;
-rob.

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From: Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:33:50 -0800

On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Dear Rob, could you reproduce the problem? Thanks

Sorry, yes I was able to see the problem. Inquiring now with Peter (our founder/programmer) to see if there's an explanation. Will let you know what he says.

-rob.

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From: Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 08:34:54 -0800 (PST)

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From: Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:17:40 -0800 (PST)

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Here are the two screenshots about it:

In addition, I have attached my whole  Configuration.butleritems . These 
definitions are in the part  us-standard11 > Controls .

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From: Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:40:57 -0800

On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:40 PM, Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]> wrote:

> PS My wording "Since 4.1.13" includes Butler 4.1.19, unfortunately - this triggered my question.

Can you please post a screenshot of the action you have setup in Butler? As noted, it's working fine here with what I thought was a setup that matched your description.

thanks;
-rob.

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From: Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:40:17 -0800 (PST)

PS My wording "Since 4.1.13" includes Butler 4.1.19, unfortunately - this 
triggered my question.

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From: Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:16:24 -0800 (PST)

Thanks for the fast response. 10.7 on one of my Mac's, 10.8 on another.

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From: Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:20:06 -0800

On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Before Butler 4.1.13, if I assigned an action to Ctrl-F (for example) then the action (such as a RightArrow) was repeated as long as I kept Ctrl-F pressed. Since 4.1.13, the action is performed only once (when releasing Ctrl-F). Could we have the old behaviour back, or is there some deep reason we can't have it anymore?

Butler 4.1.19 is current and it seems to work fine for me using that and El Capitan - what version of OS X are you using?

regards,
-rob.

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From: Tamas Fulop <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:25:56 -0800 (PST)

Dear Peter & Rob,

Before Butler 4.1.13, if I assigned an action to Ctrl-F (for example) then 
the action (such as a RightArrow) was repeated as long as I kept Ctrl-F 
pressed. Since 4.1.13, the action is performed only once (when releasing 
Ctrl-F). Could we have the old behaviour back, or is there some deep reason 
we can't have it anymore?