Subject: Re: [Moom Talk] Feature Request: Save / Restore the Dock position as well as Window positions?

From: Rowan Pettett <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)

I'm sorry, perhaps I didn't make it clear that I'm not reporting a Moom 
issue or bug. I was just suggesting a new feature, to resolve a long 
standing MacOS issue or bug that affects users with more than two displays. 

Fixing this annoyance seemed like a logical addition to the feature set of 
an app that is already doing such a great job of making my life easier with 
other housekeeping related to multiple displays. In my head Moom was a 
window AND multiple display manager, but I understand now that window 
management is your thing, and multiple display management is not. That's 
fair enough. I'll look for another app that might be a more appropriate fit 
for the problem.

Just to answer your questions... I don't know how or why the dock moves. I 
do have "Displays have separate spaces" enabled, but there is a menu bar on 
*every* display. As you say, it shouldn't ever change, but it definitely 
does. Perhaps it mainly affects users with more than two displays, but it's 
a VERY common problem that has been driving people like me crazy for many, 
many years. I've had the problem on five separate Macs and every version of 
MacOS over the last five years, and it still remains completely unaddressed 
in MacOS 10.15.4.

Regards

Rowan

On Friday, 1 May 2020 23:13:15 UTC+10, Rob Griffiths wrote:
>
> On May 1, 2020, at 12:21 AM, Rowan Pettett <[email-masked] 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
>
> > I've been using Moom for a couple of years, and it does an awesome job 
> of fixing most annoyances relating to using 2 external displays with my 
> MacBook Pro. But I'm still getting driven crazy by one more irritating 
> little thing... the dock just loves to move from one display to another a 
> couple of times a day. 
>
> How does the Dock move from one display to another—I'm confused by that 
> statement. If you have "Displays have separate Spaces" enabled in Mission 
> Control (the default), then the Dock appears on the display that's 
> currently active (i.e. is showing the menu bar). If you don't have it 
> enabled, then the Dock appears on the display with the menu bar, which 
> shouldn't ever change. I use an external display with my iMac, and that's 
> how it works here ... is it somehow different with a laptop plus two 
> displays? 
>
> > Each time it does, I have to open System Preferences/Dock and click 
> another one of the Left / Bottom / Right radio buttons before reselecting 
> the one I want it to stay on. Am I the only one this happens to? Could Moom 
> do that for me somehow? 
>
> I've never heard of this issue from anyone else, but it's not something 
> they would typically report to us, as it's not related to Moom. And it's 
> not something Moom's likely to add to its skill set, given that it's not 
> related to moving and sizing windows (and that we've never heard of this 
> issue before, so it's not something people have been asking for). You could 
> probably AppleScript it, though I've never looked into doing that. 
>
> regards; 
> -rob.

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From: Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 06:13:13 -0700

On May 1, 2020, at 12:21 AM, Rowan Pettett <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I've been using Moom for a couple of years, and it does an awesome job of fixing most annoyances relating to using 2 external displays with my MacBook Pro. But I'm still getting driven crazy by one more irritating little thing... the dock just loves to move from one display to another a couple of times a day.

How does the Dock move from one display to another—I'm confused by that statement. If you have "Displays have separate Spaces" enabled in Mission Control (the default), then the Dock appears on the display that's currently active (i.e. is showing the menu bar). If you don't have it enabled, then the Dock appears on the display with the menu bar, which shouldn't ever change. I use an external display with my iMac, and that's how it works here ... is it somehow different with a laptop plus two displays?

> Each time it does, I have to open System Preferences/Dock and click another one of the Left / Bottom / Right radio buttons before reselecting the one I want it to stay on. Am I the only one this happens to? Could Moom do that for me somehow?

I've never heard of this issue from anyone else, but it's not something they would typically report to us, as it's not related to Moom. And it's not something Moom's likely to add to its skill set, given that it's not related to moving and sizing windows (and that we've never heard of this issue before, so it's not something people have been asking for). You could probably AppleScript it, though I've never looked into doing that.

regards;
-rob.

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From: Rowan Pettett <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 00:21:17 -0700 (PDT)

I've been using Moom for a couple of years, and it does an awesome job of 
fixing most annoyances relating to using 2 external displays with my 
MacBook Pro. But I'm still getting driven crazy by one more irritating 
little thing... the dock just loves to move from one display to another a 
couple of times a day. Each time it does, I have to open System 
Preferences/Dock and click another one of the Left / Bottom / Right radio 
buttons before reselecting the one I want it to stay on. Am I the only one 
this happens to? Could Moom do that for me somehow?