Subject: Re: [Moom Talk] Full Screen Mode/Menu Bar

From: Roger Snyder <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 16:19:56 -0400

No problem. Take care.

--Roger Snyder

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 4:17 PM Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]> wrote:

> On Jun 15, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Roger Snyder <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> > Basically, a full-screen window is in its own space and a maximized
> window is with other apps in a common space.
>
> Ah, OK. Unfortunately, then, you're probably out of luck, because Apple
> doesn't let us do much of anything with Spaces. Moom can't, for instance,
> restore a layout across Spaces. Our app Witch can only see windows on other
> Spaces by resorting to an AppleScript.
>
> > While it would be great for me as an option in Moom, it isn't that big a
> deal.
>
> Yea, it's just not possible, sorry.
>
> regards;
> -rob.
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From: Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 13:17:46 -0700

On Jun 15, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Roger Snyder <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Basically, a full-screen window is in its own space and a maximized window is with other apps in a common space.

Ah, OK. Unfortunately, then, you're probably out of luck, because Apple doesn't let us do much of anything with Spaces. Moom can't, for instance, restore a layout across Spaces. Our app Witch can only see windows on other Spaces by resorting to an AppleScript.

> While it would be great for me as an option in Moom, it isn't that big a deal.

regards;
-rob.

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From: Roger Snyder <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 16:15:16 -0400

Thanks for getting back.

Basically, a full-screen window is in its own space and a maximized window
is with other apps in a common space.

You can sort of work around this by opening a space and then moving an
application to that space, (maximized), but there are a couple of issues.
The space is named "Desktop X," if you close the application, you still
have that space, (which may be the biggest issue), and if you open another
application while in that space, if also is in that space. That is all
different for a full-screen window.

Using full-screen apps really works for me, though I know a lot of people
don't use them, but I do sometimes wish I could have the menu bar present.

Thanks again.

--Roger Snyder

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 3:04 PM Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]> wrote:

> On Jun 15, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Roger Snyder <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> > This isn't a big deal, and may not be worth your time, (gee, have I
> talked you out of it yet), but I would find it nice to have a mode where an
> app was full screen, but the menu bar remained.
> >
> > This is different than maximizing a window with the menu bar.
>
> Can you explain how they differ? Because, observationally to me at least,
> those seem like the same thing. A maximized window takes up the entire
> screen, except for the menu bar. A full screen window takes up the full
> screen.
>
> > Anyway, I see I have used Moom since I bought it on September 2011, so
> thanks for many years of usefulness.
>
> Thanks! I'll pass your kind words on to Peter, Many Tricks' founder and
> programmer extraordinaire.
>
> regards;
> -rob.
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From: Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:04:03 -0700

On Jun 15, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Roger Snyder <[email-masked]> wrote:

> This isn't a big deal, and may not be worth your time, (gee, have I talked you out of it yet), but I would find it nice to have a mode where an app was full screen, but the menu bar remained.
> 

Can you explain how they differ? Because, observationally to me at least, those seem like the same thing. A maximized window takes up the entire screen, except for the menu bar. A full screen window takes up the full screen.

> Anyway, I see I have used Moom since I bought it on September 2011, so thanks for many years of usefulness. 

Thanks! I'll pass your kind words on to Peter, Many Tricks' founder and programmer extraordinaire.

regards;
-rob.

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From: Roger Snyder <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 09:19:13 -0700 (PDT)

This isn't a big deal, and may not be worth your time, (gee, have I talked 
you out of it yet), but I would find it nice to have a mode where an app 
was full screen, but the menu bar remained.

I like using full-screen mode, but at least sometimes it would be nice for 
the menu bar to be displayed predominately, (not just dropped down).

I search the internet and see others asking for something to do this, but 
no real solutions.

--Roger