Subject: Re: [Witch Talk] Witch changing results after window close

From: Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 07:55:18 -0800

On Nov 5, 2020, at 7:40 AM, David Rees <[email-masked]> wrote:

> To give a little more info, I may have like 20 windows open including 15 Chrome ones. After I close a window, suddenly 10 of those Chrome windows are no longer shown for a second or two, then they are added back. It's quite jarring. 

I have never seen that, so a recording would be most welcome. (I mean, I've seen windows vanish when I close them, of course, but I've not seen windows vanish then reappear.)

> I personally would like to go back to the previous behavior where the window list is static after activation rather than updating/changing it after every action.

I assume you use multiple Spaces?

-rob.

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From: David Rees <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 07:40:22 -0800 (PST)

While it happens regularly, it never seems to happen when I am recording :/.

To give a little more info, I may have like 20 windows open including 15 
Chrome ones. After I close a window, suddenly 10 of those Chrome windows 
are no longer shown for a second or two, then they are added back. It's 
quite jarring. 

I personally would like to go back to the previous behavior where the 
window list is static after activation rather than updating/changing it 
after every action.

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 9:55:22 AM UTC-8 Many Tricks wrote:

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 1:22 PM, David Rees <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> dramatically.  Windows may no longer be listed and the ordering changes. 
> It seems to usually be Chrome windows, which makes me think that somehow 
> Witch is updating its info from Chrome after each window delete. And that 
> sometimes it gets different info and updates the list. Then after a couple 
> seconds it gets the correct info from Chrome and changes the list back 
> again.
>
>
> I haven't seen this myself (but I don't use Chrome on a regular basis), 
> nor do I have any trouble reports from others. However, we do have trouble 
> with Chrome being slow to respond to queries at times, so I wouldn't 
> necessarily be surprised. If you can figure out what triggers it, or maybe 
> record a movie showing the problem, that'd be helpful.
>
> I'm not sure how to reproduce in a way that I can capture, which is part 
> of the reason why I have not shared before now. Is there some sort of debug 
> log I can turn on and share?
>
>
> You can enable the debug log, but it's probably not going to help in any 
> way - it just gives us more detail on what windows and tabs Witch is 
> seeing. It won't provide any information on why things are being ordered 
> the way they are. If you want to go that route, please open a trouble 
> ticket as it's way too nitty gritty to discuss on the mailing list.
>
> https://manytricks.com/support
>
> regards;
> -rob.
>
>

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From: Rob Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 09:55:20 -0800

On Jan 4, 2019, at 1:22 PM, David Rees <[email-masked]> wrote:

> dramatically.  Windows may no longer be listed and the ordering changes. It seems to usually be Chrome windows, which makes me think that somehow Witch is updating its info from Chrome after each window delete. And that sometimes it gets different info and updates the list. Then after a couple seconds it gets the correct info from Chrome and changes the list back again.

I haven't seen this myself (but I don't use Chrome on a regular basis), nor do I have any trouble reports from others. However, we do have trouble with Chrome being slow to respond to queries at times, so I wouldn't necessarily be surprised. If you can figure out what triggers it, or maybe record a movie showing the problem, that'd be helpful.

> I'm not sure how to reproduce in a way that I can capture, which is part of the reason why I have not shared before now. Is there some sort of debug log I can turn on and share?

You can enable the debug log, but it's probably not going to help in any way - it just gives us more detail on what windows and tabs Witch is seeing. It won't provide any information on why things are being ordered the way they are. If you want to go that route, please open a trouble ticket as it's way too nitty gritty to discuss on the mailing list.

https://manytricks.com/support <https://manytricks.com/support>

regards;
-rob.

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From: David Rees <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 13:22:47 -0800 (PST)

I have an issue that has started happening sporadically for the last month 
or so with Witch. After deleting a window the list of windows changes 
temporarily - sometimes dramatically.  Windows may no longer be listed and 
the ordering changes. It seems to usually be Chrome windows, which makes me 
think that somehow Witch is updating its info from Chrome after each window 
delete. And that sometimes it gets different info and updates the list. 
Then after a couple seconds it gets the correct info from Chrome and 
changes the list back again.

When it is happening Witch becomes pretty unusable for deleting windows, so 
I usually switch to a different product. Then switch back to Witch after a 
few days when I miss it.

I'm not sure how to reproduce in a way that I can capture, which is part of 
the reason why I have not shared before now. Is there some sort of debug 
log I can turn on and share?

Thanks,
dave